8:30AM Doron Weinburg shows up.
8:40AM the Pedophile and his Slatternly Wife show up.
8:42AM Doron whines to prosecutor about how he’s so terribly important and busy with the Spector trial and can’t possibly do the victims the benefit of even putting on a show trial during ayres' lifetime. (Well… not his EXACT words, but you get the idea…) Prosecutor makes a pretty good show of being angry about it. (Thanks Melissa!) I know that I was feeling embarrassed for Doron.
Sometime immediately thereafter, probably between 8:45 and 9AM: Court is called to order and they give the judge the “for real, firm, really going to happen this time… for sure, not to be changed trial date of:
MAY 11, 2009 at 8:30AM
(Remember to use PENCIL when you mark your calendar! BUT... you can use a pen to tally your guess as to the number of underaged male "sex workers" you imagine the Pedophile is possibly victimizing as his trial dates keep getting pushed out.)
No pre-trial hearing is scheduled. (Clarification: there is no further pre-trial hearing planned, as it seemed from discussion immediately before the hearing that there were no plea-bargains offered; or if there were, they were not terms that were acceptable to the defense, and so the judge appeared mostly concerned with making a trial date stick. )
The judge then basically said: no point in discussion today as no one has anything to offer, buh-bye now.
And everyone filed out, with The Slattern doling out dirty looks for all. The Pedophile helped a young woman with her jacket. Safety warnings were not issued, as the Pedophile appears only to like young boys.
The whole thing was over quicker than you can say "Watch out for shrinks, they're a bunch of sadistic, manipulative perverts!"
Quite a let down. Although, I’m a bit delirious, as I’ve only slept about an hour in the last 40 hours.
Maybe I’ll post more later. If I post more now, it will be very filthy, and everyone's eyes will bleed.
Have a Merry Christmas everyone.
(Well, against my better judgment: not EVERYONE. Some of you should probably get around to the business of rotting in hell. Why don’t you do us all a favor and go play on the train tracks? (I think you know who you are...))
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Solveig smirked when she overheard some friends of the victims express satisfaction that a trial date has been set, as the victims' lives have been ruined.
ReplyDeleteWe did not appreciate the festive Christmas pin Solveig was wearing
The pedophile did not look very confident.. Robbed of his power, he comes across as weak.
Solveg is an enabler, and once you get past her smirks, a sad character.
Our sense is that Solveig is attracted to danger. She knows more than she's saying....What does she know and when did she first know about it ?And what do her children think about this ? Why do we not every see them in court.
ReplyDeleteQuite a pair, the Ayres !!!
By the way, the good doctor kept yawning in the courtroom. Apparently he was up late last night.. can you imagine him telling the people at a party."Gotta go. Have a hearing about that danged pedophile thing..." You just know they're telling their friends that it's a witch hunt, that they're badmouthing all the victims....(even though according to Ayres, he can't recall any of them not a single one,,)
This past week Thea Leavitt, a staunch defender of the Ayres', was at a Waterworks class with a mother of a victim... Our sense is that Thea blocks out unpleasant realities by simply humming all the time. That's what she does. Lalala.. I don't hear all those nasty stories about Ayres.Everything is fine.
Both Ayres and his wife are a dangerous, dangerous pair. We are getting the sense that they are into something more dangerous than we can possibly know....whatever it is, they don't like children.
Slattern Etymology: probably from German schlottern to hang loosely, slouch; akin to Dutch slodderen to hang loosely, slodder slut
ReplyDelete: an untidy slovenly woman ; also : SLUT , PROSTITUTE
A bit tough on the wife and that suggests there is more to the personal agenda of people and victims in here!
I'd never convict Dr. Ayres based on the age of this case and the "witch hunt" mentality, name calling and being a "day late and a dollar short" in the investigation
I think Dr. Ayres is guilty, whether it is of bad judgement to give physicals that should be done by a general practionier or specialists or actual molestation.
Swift justice is much better than justice delayed. In this case, I am more interested in solving recent crimes that are thorough, comprehensive, tenacious investigations. Law enforcement should be doing a better job of enforcing independent crimes, criminal gang activity and enforcement of our immigration laws.
I am also focused on ensuring that convicts complete their probation and parole successfully and that those that need programs to control their drug abuse or domestic violence complete those programs without interruption or they can go to jail and complete it there!
Ayres is "small potatoes" today considering the flawed investigations that is over 20 years old, even thoough a few or less than 20, and none can be considered recent. Legally, can prosecute it, but it will never be a satisfactory answer to his behavior because it was not swift and justice will never be served even if a conviction stands. Ayres is marking time based on age alone and health issues will nullify real punishment.
I am concerned about current pedophilia problems committed by those that have yet to come to our public attention. There are so many family members that have secret and inappropriate behavior between children and their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, cousins, brothers and even the feminine equivalent. Let's not forget the teachers and other professions that have overstepped their bounds.
The best we can hope for is that law enforcement, the district attorney, the courts, probation and judges get it right and monitor those that are accused so when a pattern begins to developed it is not poo pooed! We often pissed these case away long ago and our various profession failed the victims and the public!
The victims and their families also did not have the tenacity and pissed away their demand for timely action. Ayres conviction will send many victims into a state of euphoria that leads to greater depression so the mental health experts better be prepared to treat a whole set of other issues unrelated to pedophilia and the conviction... or hung jury or "not proven" finding. This will be a pyrrhic victory that may be the demise of some victims.
Jack Kirkpatrick, you have made those same rambling and factually incorrect arguments on the Burlingame Daily News forum. Though some of us have tried to correct you, you don't seem to be listening That's Ok.
ReplyDeleteSomeone on the SM Daily Journal made the following observation about Dr. Ayres' courtroom appearance.
Anyone else notice Dr. Ayres' overly exaggerated and highly
theatrical grab for his cane when he stood up, after the judge asked him where he was ??? He was acting as if he would topple over if he didn't have that cane. Then how come he walked perfectly fine without a cane the day he was arrested? In 2005 during the civil suit against him, he always showed up to court with that little twisted cane in tow, though. Some of us wonder if it's merely a prop, a grab for sympathy..
Since he didn't feel any sympathy for his victims when he bullied them and pushed them around, we aren't inclined to feel a speck of sympathy for him now or ever..
It's amazing how diminished and weak he seems now that he can't hide behind that medical degree and now that that he is being shunned by his former partners ( all except Etta Bryant) and by his old pals at the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, where some folks are saying that Ayres was very mean to the secretaries. And where he will never ever be asked again to sit with the other past presidents on stage at the annual meetings again.
Funny, we have also heard some probation officers at Hillcrest say Dr. Ayres was snobbish towards them.. If you were one of the little people, it seems, Dr Ayres did not have the time of day for you... His ploy was to suck up to the ones in power, like Bebe Hoxey at Hillcrest, the one who could give him access to boys.
Dr. Ayres should have remembered that it is those very little people like the secretaries who will serve on his jury.
The silver lining about the delays is that Ayres will have to keep forking out $$ to Slimeberg.. money's gotta be getting tight by now, what with those four other civil suits.
ReplyDeleteSlimeberg looked like hell at the hearing. Bet he wished he'd never taken the case.
Ayres just gimps around to get better parking, has the handicap placard. I am sure his weight has had a bearing on those old hips requiring the use of a cane. Difficult to find parking outside of Il Fornaio in Burlingame where he and Solveig ate and ate some more.....handicapped or not, mentally one warped SOB! If he dies penniless and leaves Solveig with nothing for retirement that is all well and fine.
ReplyDeleteAyres was seen at the ballet recently. No word on whether he was using that silly cane.
ReplyDeleteDidn't you know that court is the theater of the absurd for both the prosecution and the defendant - all you have to do is see the Peterson or OJ's trials.
ReplyDeleteAyres is 75 and using a cane may be a prop for an eccentric person or a medical device or a weapon to hold the dogs off...! When you get that age, people are moving into old age and any geriatric specialist will tell you that, but you can read that by saying he has no right to get old. Someday, you may become more infirm! Besides, sympathy is not a requirement for any of us.
It is not uncommon for professions to distance themselves from those under indictment or suspicion and all we have to do is look the presidential candidate John Edwards and his affair prior to the convention! He may have been invited to sit with the past presidents, but he may also have decline. If he was really worried, maybe he wouldn't have showed up at the convention.
Being mean to a secretary may not be nice, but it is also a matter of what actually transpired between them and the need for social distance. I have seen examples where secretaries have been overly friendly and other times distant, neither of which is professional.
Probation offices (having been one) are often their own worst enemy. That are in positions of power and they can be bullies during interviews or even making arrests. When a more powerful person (academically or professionally is present, they can shirk or interpret it as arrogance. Even police officers can appear to be intimidating even when they are investigating. For me, I picked the psychologists mind to better serve my counseling or in writing my reports and their arrogance, if there is any is set aside for the bigger picture.
As to the differences you see in my posts, I only present my view, but I consider other views. We disagree, but there is no lost if I lose my argument or it is later sustained after all appeals - pre or post conviction appeals. You can try to persuade me that I am wrong, but over all what I have predicted up to now has passed. It is not important that I am right - it just comes down to the dialogue and the chips will eventually fall where they may.
Networking to obtain business is not sucking up. It is communicating and setting up an interest that I have the skills and interest that can enhance the business or organization.
I am also experienced enough to know victims sometimes re-victimize themselves when they cannot resolve their anger and the many things that got them to a "social worker." Sometimes, in some instances they are part and parcel to the problem. I had two quadriplegic parolees that were responsible for their actions because of criminal activity that they instituted. I can think of many more with lesser injuries that also fall into that category include drug abusers...!
As to the jury, how Dr. Ayres treated his secretaries should have no bearing on the proof or the guilt. If it does, then he cannot be found guilty because the trial was not fair or objective AND I AM SURE YOU WANT A FAIR TRIAL. I don't think you want to add another appeal on top of the other ones that are sure to follow!
By the way, I would never call any profession or employee "little people." What a crook! If you get pushed around, that may be a good strategy to know when to deal with your feelings later in a performance review or discussion about respect in the workplace. If it is unanswered, it may be that it wasn't really significant and declared harmless. If it was harmful, quit to or stand up and deal with it and take your chances - the employer may thinks that is a good attribute to promotion.
As to maintaining a public personae and eating out or going to the ballet - good for him; it is mentally healthy and keeps him focused than to be an isolate or infuse himself with depression.
He won't lose all his money - this is a community property state, they may get a portion or the insurance will pay if they choose to roll over. By that time, he may be dead and a trial won't produce much.
The delicious thing about the ballet is all of those pre-pubescent boys running around in tights!
ReplyDeletePerhaps Herr Doktor's good wife should watch him VERY carefully next time. Watch his eyes and his facial expressions Mrs. Ayres. Does he touch his mouth and nose frequently while watching? Follow what he is looking at Mrs. Ayres.
One wonders if Dr. Ayres and his wife attended the San Francisco Boys Chorus, which recently gave a Christmas concert,. It was televised. Those apple cheeked boys boys would be right up his alley.
ReplyDeleteRobert S. Kelly: wouldn't Dr, Ayres also be inclined to touch other things besides his nose and mouth?
Do you think Solveig reads this blog?
ReplyDeleteThat is a very disappointing comment from Anonymous or is it Robert, about Dr. Ayres and the ballet! We are much more beyond Pavlonian theory and conditioning here! At least Anonymous could come out of the "blog" and provide an identity when making a gross observation that is not appropriate measure in respiration or other elements required in phallometic measurement!
ReplyDeleteMaybe you need to update your observations and be more scientific in your analysis of sexual arousal. The common testing procedures used for "mentally disordered sex offender programs" or their variation use phallometry and plethysmographic testing for testing sexual arousal, its analysis and arousal reconditioning.
Anonymous' observation of Dr. Ayres, may be more appropriate for everyone that leers regardless of pre-puberesent children, underage teens or adults who are "watching all the girls... or boys go by," regardless of age or the leering one's gender!
So, hook everyone up...! Everyone may not be so pure when it comes to leering at underage children or adults. Leering can be construed as sexual harassment by legal definition!
Jack: Did it ever occur to you that some of the people posting here might be victims who are feeling excruciating amounts of anguish, more than you will ever know in your lifetime ?
ReplyDeleteThat said, I think it's bizarre that after Ayres sold his house, out of all the places to move, he moved to a condo just two houses down from the scene of the crime, on the same side of the street..Well they say criminals like to return to the scene where they perpetrated their crimes, so there you go.
You can't take counsel of your fears or rehabilitation will never occur. These "kids" were mixed-up, damaged goods and probably lost in "desperation and panic" long before Dr. Ayres entered the picture, otherwise they would not have been referred, examined or underwent psychotherapy.
ReplyDeleteThe referrals represent the long story about the "sweet birds of youth" and what kinds of pressures boys are under and how they handle their tensions or how families guide children to socialize them to obtain acceptance and conventions!
The question may be what was the anguish victims experiencing before Dr. Ayres and has that behavior been extinguished, masked or enhanced by Dr. Ayres alleged physical examination that may not have any antecedents in sexual behavior? We may find out in the protocols, medical records and not just the testimony of the victims and other experts.
Venting on here by victims is not going to assuage their fears and may make their PTSD worst or reinforce what they think they believe that may have been shaded over the years. I am very skeptical of everyone associated in this case and the time differential!
Jack Kirkpatrick said...
ReplyDelete"[...]These "kids" were mixed-up, damaged goods and probably lost in "desperation and panic" long before Dr. Ayres entered the picture"
Fascinating. It's good that Dr. Ayres only abused disposable kids. That way there's no damage!
Robert, I did not say anything about disposable kids!
ReplyDeleteNo one is disposable and I believe in treatment-upon-demand programs and rehabilitation even for those that are permanently locked up with life in prison without parole! I believe that more conjoint family counseling should be incorporated in our county programs and not looking at a parenting movie to have their ticket punched. I have advocated for domestic violence programs that are more comprehensive today and that those place in any programming must stay in the programs to completion without missing meetings! It is the continuity of the program that is at stake.
I do not even believe that Dr. Ayres "abused disposable kids...[or as you say] that way there's no damage!" Now you are making things up in whole cloth, but I have no doubt "These kids were mixed-up, damaged goods and probably lost in 'desperation and panic' long before Dr. Ayres entered the picture." I do think that some parents think that kids are disposible.
All you have to do is look at almost every client who has a criminal record or had juvenile petitions sustained because of their behavior fit that mode. However, many people also may fall into that mode and never come into the criminal justice system but they get work through problems and adjust well in society.
If you don't like the phrase, examine the prison system and those that live dysfunctional lives today. Many can't maintain close interpersonal relationships, have living together relationships divorce rates that are off the charts. Many more shirk their responsibility, can't hold a steady job and fail to pay court ordered child support for wanted or unwanted children.
Let's face it the bottom line is that parents are the gateway to success or failure at conception and if they do not have their act together by supervising their children and hold them accountable much of the fallout is on their children and then the community's taxpayers are left holding the bag. When parents don't measure up, I do think that is the first clue that their progenies are disposable. Look how many parents let their children be raised by a relative, friend or in foster care!
Jack- Your ideas about what kinds of people visit psychiatrists is very dated. There are highly successful Chairmans of Boards; teachers, pastors, lawyers and what have you who went to psychiatrists as kids and continue to do so as adults...
ReplyDeleteOne kid I know who was sent to a shrink is now a surgeon and happily married.
I know you like to hear yourself talk, Jack, but you're not basing your arguments on facts. We appreciate that you are reading this blog, however.
Hey, Jack, a therapist tried to complain about Dr. Ayres' touching a boy in the late 1990s, and was thwarted by Childrens Services. Ayres was doing this right up until he was caught. And may I remind you that the seven victims he is being tried for are well within statute. Some victims are in their early twenties. And no, nothing you have predicted has come to pass.
ReplyDeleteAgain, you haven't read the facts of the case closely enough.. Please go back and read everything.. And in many cases the abuse was more than just "touching". We bet that Ayres chickens out - just as he did in the civil suit three years ago, when he found out other victims were going to testify against him. He was scared out of his mind about what was going to come out. Many of the victims who will testify in the criminal trial were abused much more badly..
Also, we have heard his lawyer tried to make a plea deal. Why would he try to do that if his client didn't think he was gonna lose bigtime?
I believe William Hamilton Ayres will take a plea deal. There is no way even Slimeberg can explain away Ayres' statement in the deposition that he never asked a child to take his pants off in a session with the fact that he told his partners that he gave physicals to kids.
ReplyDeleteHe's toast. He's already ruined and I for one, derive great pleasure from knowing that.
Another child psychiatrist under scrutiny in Boston:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/12/31/doctor_to_halt_his_drug_firm_activities/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Massachusetts+news
Wonder if he and Mel Levine and Ayres have ever crossed paths ?
I am officially checking out of the blog. Deep sounding edits what he wants! He can tell someone to rot in hell, play on the train tracks etc. But a post of mine was removed. I exiting out the door now along with my free speech!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: Can you paraphrase what you wrote in the post that was deleted?
ReplyDeleteSigh..
ReplyDeleteHere's what I've deleted (NOT edited; I can't really do that easily) with this post:
Several back-and-forth exchanges with Jack Kirkpatrick which were amusing but mostly me being angry at Jack and Jack responding back lightheartedly and humorously, but in all they were off topic, and detracting.
And one post which contained the lyrics (verbatim) to a Dennis Leary song and dedicated to a commenter on this blog and ayres, with no other content. The lyrics can be found here: http://www.endor.org/leary/
ayres, I don't give a rip about. But I was trepidatious about leaving insults to another poster regardless. I did think about it for awhile before I decided to delete it, but it's water under the bridge now.
I don't know who was offended that I deleted the post. If it was Jack, sorry, but it didn't "Value Add" anyway, and I left all of your "content postings"
If it was a victim/family member or close follower angry about the lyric deletion, I'm sorry that I've offended you, I'd rather not this be a forum for back and forth name calling among POSTERS. Angry disagreement is OK.
Yeah... I "censor" my blog VERY occasionally.
Have a happy new year everyone!
I understand people that may disagree with me and assume I have not read the transcript or heard the testimony to date.
ReplyDeleteFrom my own experience in the criminal justice system, preliminary hearings are only about probable cause, not a preponderance of evidence or proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I have worked with sexual offenders and my office staff treated them and not all things in the criminal justice system is black and white, and true or falsity have a way of being between here and there.
Nothing to date has convinced me that Dr. Ayres is guilty, but as I said, I think he is guilty of the very least, bad judgement.
His victims see it otherwise, but whether it meets the legal requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt remains in abeyance. I have seen too many cases where guilt appeared certain, but a twist of facts showed at a later date, otherwise we would not have a history of convictions that have proved otherwise.
I am not ready to hang Dr. Ayres out to dry and I may not be able to even if he is convicted based on age of the events the protocols of psychiatry in the days when he was trained. After all, a psychiatrist is a medical doctor trained as a general practitioner , but GP's later may become specialized in surgery or psychiatry... opposed to when he was trained when protocols may differ today. Psychiatrists also prescribe specialized medication that can have a an effect on all aspects of internal medicine including body changes such as the use of predreson (sp) . So Dr, Ayres should be proficient in general medicine and issues related to drugs and their attributes and dangers!
As we know through maturity, all truths we think are revealed are not necessarily true. It is a matter of perception and forensic evidence and not testimony and opinion that tests the motive and the behavior! Dr. Ayres actions may not be based upon pedophilia, but then that is why there is a trial and a judgement. At his age the ultimate judgement leave little room for rehabilitation if there was untoward behavior.
I am not concerned that I am right - only the ultimate proof of truth that may not lie in the hands of the alleged victims or the jury! That is a difficulty abstraction, but it represents my beliefs based on the age of the events and those that should have been persuasive to curb any inappropriate behavior of Dr, Ayres at the onset!
The real guilt may lay elsewhere - like it or not!
I understand people that may disagree with me and assume I have not read the transcript or heard the testimony to date.
ReplyDeleteFrom my own experience in the criminal justice system, preliminary hearings are only about probable cause, not a preponderance of evidence or proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I have worked with sexual offenders and my office staff treated them and not all things in the criminal justice system is black and white, and true or falsity have a way of being between here and there.
Nothing to date has convinced me that Dr. Ayres is guilty, but as I said, I think he is guilty of the very least, bad judgement.
His victims see it otherwise, but whether it meets the legal requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt remains in abeyance. I have seen too many cases where guilt appeared certain, but a twist of facts showed at a later date, otherwise we would not have a history of convictions that have proved otherwise.
I am not ready to hang Dr. Ayres out to dry and I may not be able to even if he is convicted based on age of the events the protocols of psychiatry in the days when he was trained. After all, a psychiatrist is a medical doctor trained as a general practitioner , but GP's later may become specialized in surgery or psychiatry... opposed to when he was trained when protocols may differ today. Psychiatrists also prescribe specialized medication that can have a an effect on all aspects of internal medicine including body changes such as the use of predreson (sp) . So Dr, Ayres should be proficient in general medicine and issues related to drugs and their attributes and dangers!
As we know through maturity, all truths we think are revealed are not necessarily true. It is a matter of perception and forensic evidence and not testimony and opinion that tests the motive and the behavior! Dr. Ayres actions may not be based upon pedophilia, but then that is why there is a trial and a judgement. At his age the ultimate judgement leave little room for rehabilitation if there was untoward behavior.
I am not concerned that I am right - only the ultimate proof of truth that may not lie in the hands of the alleged victims or the jury! That is a difficulty abstraction, but it represents my beliefs based on the age of the events and those that should have been persuasive to curb any inappropriate behavior of Dr, Ayres at the onset!
The real guilt may lay elsewhere - like it or not!
To the second to last poster here, who says:
ReplyDeleteAfter all, a psychiatrist is a medical doctor trained as a general practitioner , but GP's later may become specialized
Why do i get the feeling you didn't read the reports of the hearing in August 2007, when the judge decided there was enough evidence to proceed to trial ?
Since when is it normal for a child psychiatrist to masturbate boys to ejaculation in a therapy session, ( first applying lotion to them and pretending that it's medicinal)and then to get angry with them when they refuse to submit to his "exams" anymore, and tell them there's "something wrong" with them?
Since when does a child pscyhiatrist give repeated "proctology" exams to young boys as Ayres did repeatedly to the same boys, over and over and over ? You know damn well he was never trained to do that back in Boston?
Why, as one victim reported here, who was the son of a respected pediatrician, who had already been examined, did Ayres repeatedly give him "physicals" and attempt to masturbate him over and over and over?
Why did Ayres show weird drawings of genitalia to boys? Why did he give repeated physicals at every session for months to a boy, whose pediatrician had already found nothing?
Why did Ayres buy thousands upon thousands of dollars for these victims, even taking some out on the weekends to buy present? And never billing the parents?
Why did Dr. Ayres say in a civil deposition THAT HE HAS NEVER ASKED A BOY TO TAKE HIS CLOTHES OFF IN A SESSION, and yet when an alarmed mother contacted his partners to say Ayres was making her son strip, Ayres assured his partners it was a common practise to give "physicals"?
Why is it that Ayres never recorded these physicals? Why did he never give a single physical to a girl?
AND most important of all, WHY DID AYRES' LAWYER NOT LONG AGO INQUIRE ABOUT PLEA BARGAINS FOR HIS CLIENT?
All i can think of is that you have not been following the case very closely at all. Go down to the San Mateo Court house and look at the civil suit documents against him in 2003.
And oh, yes, if Dr. Ayres didn't molest that boy in the civil suit, how come he settled and paid money? Was it because other victims had come forward with even more damning stories who were going to testity?
You sound like a defensive doctor who is uncomfortable that one of your own would be capable of that. It happens. Someone who trained with Boston was also convicted of the same thing ( not nearly as many victims were found.)
Believe me, if Ayres' lawyer is talking about a plea deal, he knows he's got a losing case.
But I think no matter how much evidence there is, you just don't want to see it. That's your prerogative. Who knows, perhaps you had something tragic happen to you as a kid, and don't want to face it.
I wonder if some of the people who are sort of defending Ayres here have had some similar experiences in their childhood - or they know someone who has abused kids, and yet don't want to admit it. Just a theory... All of Ayres' colleagues, who know him, believe he did it, and think he's going to ask for a plea bargain.
ReplyDeleteIn a preliminary hearing all the District Attorney has to do is per sent enough testimony to establish probably cause. The defense attorney may remain silent or probe those that testify for weaknesses in the case or may ask questions that give him clues on how to proceed. Although the preliminary testimony may be used later in a trial to test discrepancies, it still does not meet the standards of a trial where guilt must be found beyond a reasonable doubt! That is what a trial is for - to an sewer those questions and vet those that testify. This may be a bench trial where the judge decides or a jury trial to decide guilt to innocence.
ReplyDeletePlea bargains also unfold at various points and are not necessarily initiated by the defense. This usually occurs in private, sometimes the chamber of the judge during pretrial hearings. Very little of what you see occurs in open court. I have no doubt that there may have been an offer or offers and even counteroffers. The defense attorney must convey all offers to his client and Dr. Ayres is the one that must decide, Besides once an acceptance is made a settlement agreement must be approved by the judge and often times by the victim or in the case of a minor by his parents/guardian. Plea bargains are usually not good deals and they are do not indicate that the defense attorney has a losing case, au contraire, it may mean that the DA has a weak case. PG's are ways of moving cases though the courts and clear them efficiently - it really is not about guilt because the settlement may be something less than the behavior that actually occurred. Lastly, PB's usually forfeits a defendant's right to an appeal and I would never recommend that happen to just as I believe a person should remain silent or make the best deal he can, if he is guilty.
We'll just have to see how the case unfolds, but based upon the ages of the cases, I think a trial by jury ought to occur and test the reliability of the victims statements, inconsistencies, memory, documents, counter testimony, etc. to see where the facts may lay. I also want to see how all of the appeals are settled even if that is carried to the USSC. District appellant court decisions don't always measure up and sometimes differ from district to district who are not bound by another courts decision.
The importance of this case is not the defense of Dr. Ayres. It is vetting openly the problem of pedophilia out there and advertise the current pedophilia problems committed by those that have yet to come to our public attention. This is especially true as many family members have a secret and inappropriate behavior between children by their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, cousins, brothers and even the feminine equivalent (and the next door neighbor or family friend). Let's not forget the teachers and other professions that have overstepped their bounds - it is in this area that is getting the best attention at the moment). I want the DA to prove his case - lots of publicity and let it all hang out will does more for victims not yet acknowledged!
And for those that speculate that I am a victim of past untoward behavior by an adult, that answer is "No."
I am or was a mandated reporter in my profession and certainly reported my suspicions to CPS or law enforcement. I do know with certainty that the "family secret" is a terrible phenomena that must be addressed in the court and we have not even come close to holding family members accountable and sending them to prison and later into rehabilitation problems. The district attorney and courts know this is a problem, but have been reluctant to sometimes act and families don't what to go there or lose a "breadwinner" or ruin another child's life by the stigma that follows the family around until death "doth us them" part!
Sprocket Blog mentioned Weinberg and the Ayres trial yesterday and linked to the San Mateo Daily Journal forum:
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" If my grandchildren needed a psychiatrist, I would take them to him without hesitation, " said Gerry Hilliary, chief of the county's private defender's office, whose clients -- young offenders and wards of the court -- Ayres often evaluated.
ReplyDeleteFrom "Police Seize Doctor's Files", by Sean Webby and Renee Koury, San Jose Mercury News, April 26, 2006.
Neither Ayres nor Etta Bryant attended Dr. Hugh Ridlehuber's memorial service. All of the other former partners did.
ReplyDeleteIn the San Mateo medical community, there were those who bought Ayres' shtick and those who never fell for it.
ReplyDeleteHugh Ridlehuber never liked Ayres and resisted Ayres' attempts at friendship. Though he and his young son did go for a swim at Ayres' pool some decades ago.. His son was about 12, just the age Ayres liked. Thank God nothing happened to the boy.
Just found this nugget from "Joglars" on the San Francisco Chronicle, written just before the hearing in which the judge decided there is probably cause. I think it's a safe bet to say that Solveig was the author:
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Indeed. "innocent until proven guilty" - as his attorney said, Ayres's habit of giving full-body physical exams to (only) boys under 15 is just his unique method of "treating the whole person" This caring man has been "misunderstood" and his totally innocent, completely above-board medical exams have been recast in the minds of those three dozen scheming and unprincipled former patients as sexual abuse! It is well-established in child psychiatry that "identifying physical issues" is a prerequisite to therapy. I'm sure that all those kids had pediatricians, but Ayres believes, if you want something done right, you've got to do it yourself! And as for the fact that he never made any notes about these exams in his records - well, he's just a bit sloppy about his record-keeping. You're right, "trained", I'm sure that a sensible jury will see through the malicious lies his ex-patients have concocted, and acquit. I mean, it's just their word againt his, and he's a doctor!
Link to Chronicle posting.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/08/BAGFIREQ9F1.DTL&hw=William+Ayres&sn=008&sc=745A joglar is a professional troubador, something we understand Solveig at one point in her life wished to be. Yup, Solveig wrote this.
Man has that woman been brainwashed or what ? Does she not understand the pain of these victims and how hard it is for them to come forward?
Here's a comment from the Chronicle by a victim who signs his name:
ReplyDeleteI was a patient of Dr. Ayers in 1973/74 In my mind I have no doubt that he committed all of the allegations and many more including acts upon myself. I gave deposition in the civil case and I have no monetary concerns in this case, and i do not feel that any male would volentarily make up stories of homosexual molestations, because of the connotations. I am 50 years old and the experience is long behind me. My father was the pediatrician that referred both myself and Mr. Abrams to Dr. Ayers, so I have quite a bit of background knowledge in this case. My only regret is that I have never been able to confront Ayers personally on his actions. If anyone out there still doubts that Ayers is guilty of these accusations let me put your minds at rest. HE DID IT, ALL OF IT, AND PROBABLY MUCH MORE THAT HASN'T BEEN UNCOVERED. David Gross Victom
Link to victim's comment:
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Many people discount what facts a potential juror would use. I was kicked off jury duty three years ago by Judge Foiles for asserting my opinion that a medical expert is on the stand receiving somewhere in the range of $3,500 to $5,000 for fees. This expert witness will say what he is hired to say. I was let go. Now last week I received notice after three years that I am summoned to jury duty on January 26, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. I pondered what it what take me to be convinced that Dr. Ayres is guilty. Really as a juror all you would have to do is Google earth his old home on Oakdale in Hillsborough and from high atop the satellite you see the swimming pool in the backyard. He sold the home for about 2 million to pay off a victim. He now lives in a rental whcih is owned by an asian person in San Jose who most likely does not watch his case or read this blog. I have known many older people including my own parents who did scale down from a larger house in retirement - but never to a rental. It clearly was not by choice that Solveig packed the rooms of her children and herself to move to a rental! No person of innocence would give up everything they own to throw away the nest egg of retirement if they were not guilty of all said crimes. I would rot in prison like Hurricane Carter before I would settle a case I protested my innocence to. This is really all it would take for me as a juror to be convinced of guilt in the Dr. Ayres case.
ReplyDeleteGood points, anonymous !!! And let us not forget that Ayres and Solveig's rental is just two houses down from the scene of his crime - his office. It's even on the same side of the street. You know what they say about perps - they always return to the scene of the crime.
ReplyDeleteAyres settled because he got scared when four other victims of his - including Greg Hogue, who had documentation that he had complained about Ayres back in 1987- were found and said they would testify. As soon as the boy's lawyer in the civil suit handed Ayres' lawyer the slip of paper with the other names of the victims, and said "Ask Ayres if he's ever heard of these boys ?" it was game over. Man, you should have seen how fast he backed down when he saw the names of the other victims. It was almost comical....he was scared out of his mind that the details of the molestation and would ruin his career. What he told his medical colleagues after the civil suit was that he was paying the victim not because he was guilty but out of charity- he wanted to pay for his rehab and therapy. Yeah, right, fork over $400,000 to someone you didn't do anything to? And who claims in the deposition that he has no memory of the boy whatsoever, even though the boy was a patient of his for five years ? Why would anyone pay money to someone he doesn't remember?He was cooked then, and he's cooked now. I bet he pleads guilty. You can tell Weinberg does not want this to go to trial.
Hey Solveig -er- I mean Joglars:
ReplyDeleteMEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA
April 12, 2007
Medical Board of California Obtains
Suspension of San Mateo Physician's Medical License
SACRAMENTO—The Medical Board of California has obtained a "no practice" order against William Hamilton Ayres, M.D. of San Mateo, effective April 11, 2007. Judge Kathleen McKenna of the Superior Court of the County of San Mateo signed the "no practice" order in response to a request by Deputy Attorney General Lawrence Mercer, on behalf of the Medical Board. Dr. Ayres advised the court that he did not object to entry of the order. The board's request was filed pursuant to Penal Code section 23 which permits a licensing agency, in the interest of protecting the public, to make an appearance before the court in a criminal action against its licensee and to recommend that the licensee be prohibited from practicing medicine as a condition of release on bail or probation. Medical Board Executive Director Dave Thornton stated, "The mission of the Medical Board is to protect healthcare consumers. We work diligently to achieve our mission by vigorously enforcing the Medical Practice Act."
On April 6, 2007 Ayres was arrested by the San Mateo Police Department and charged with 14 felony counts of lewd and lascivious acts with a child under the age of 14.
The Medical Board is continuing to pursue further action on this matter.
And if the Medical Board of California is involved WOWEE they don't do much to protect consumers at all. You could walk into one of their district offices with a leg missing when you went into surgery for a nose job and they would say after months of investigation the facts just won't hold up under the scrutiny of ADMINISTRATIVE LAW. Just the fact the Medical Board did this much is a miracle!
ReplyDeleteSt. Clair Baxter posted this on the San Mateo Daily Journal Forum:
ReplyDeleteParhaps Solveig has not read her husband's
deposition in the civil suit, from October 27, 2004
Page 81:
Victim's lawyer, Bob Tobin to Dr. Ayres:
So I would take it from what your testimony is that it was not your custom and practise to ever ask a male youth to take their pants down ?
Ayres: Correct
Lawyer: That would be highly unusual for you ever to ask the child to take his pants down, correct?
Ayres: Yes.
Lawyer: I'm sure there are years that went by where you never asked any child to take his pants down, correct?
Ayres (starting to fumble) You're asking for something specific. I don't know. Yes, I would assume yes. To my best knowledge, yes.
Lawyer: How often- well, how many times in your entire practise have you ever asked a child to take his pants down? In 40 y ears.
Ayres: I don't know that I have ever asked a child to take their pants down.
If you want to really get creeped out, there's a tape by Ayres for sale called "The Diagnostic Interview."
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It's a speech he made to members of the American Society of Adolescent Pscychiatry in 1995. Deadly boring at first( Ayres sounds very depressed), the only time he comes to life is when he talks about boys who lie to psychiatrists. What does he use as an example?? Does he say they lie about sex and drugs?? Nope... The creepy example he gives is.. surprise, surprise,Masturbation.
In the only section of the tape where he comes to life and starts to laugh hysterically like a goofy 13 year old, he tells his colleagues: ".. The truth is adolescents lie... you can come back two or three months.. or they'll volunteer'Oh, by the way you know when I told you that I masturbate, I said I did but I really don't, I know it's normal but I can't because I came home one night when I was 13 and my father was having sex with this neighbor lady and I heard them and I saw them and it was terrible and after that I haven't been able to masturbate since then...(Here, Ayres is beside himself with glee and chortles and is laughing so hard he can't finish his sentences) So even a thing like a kid saying he masturbates you think that's gonna be, oh well, that's nor-sometimes they'll lie if they're intelligent."
--On the tape this guy comes across as either depressed or manic. Maybe bi-polar?
We hear that Ayres had the audacity to accuse another child psychiatrist of being obsessed with masturbation.
In therapeutic circles, this is known as projection.
Good description of Slimberg's antics in the Spector trial, and getting yelled at by the judge:
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Funny description of an unhappy Slimeberg,in the Phil Spector trial, from yesterday's Sprocket Blog:
ReplyDeleteOne thing that was more apparent today was Weinberg's fidgeting. He leaned back in his chair (he does this often) but he does have this nervous habit of taking his right forefinger and moving it up and down over his lips, almost like he is plucking guitar strings.
Deep Sounding:
ReplyDeleteI would be interested in hearing your current attitude towards the psychiatric profession. Do you not trust any therapists ? If so, I would imagine that this attitude would be shared by many victims of Dr. Ayres. I think it would be helpful for you to write a post about this.
If the victims of Ayres had been molested by a priest, they might have been able to trust a therapist. But I imagine for the Ayres victims, none of them will ever trust any shrink again.
Thoughts?
From "Beyond Betrayal - Taking Charge of Your Life After Boyhood Sexual Abuse" by Richard Gartner, Ph.D, founding director of the Sex Abuse Program at William Alanson White Institute in Manhattan:
ReplyDelete"Sexual abuse occurs when someone uses their power and control to coerce someone else to engage in sexual acts without regard for the other person's will or needs.If you were sexually abused, your abuser cared more about satisfying his own desires than about the fact that you were still developing and your development was put at terrible risk...
Why do people sexually abuse children? What is the need they have?...Sexual behavior may mask many motives. For example, adult abusers may be prompted by insecuriity. They attempt to feel more secure by exercising power over someone who is weaker..."
- Describes the good doctor, doesn't it?
My post is about Doron Weinberg's conduct in the Phil Spector trial. Since I actively loathe him for taking on the Ayres case, I am delighted to hear that he was squiriming and sputtering yesterday at the Spector trial when it was discovered that his witness was falsifying evidence for the jury.
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I have in my notes that Weinberg is grasping for phrases. He's sputtering, trying to defend his witness's experiment.
DW: (The point of this) is to try to discredit Pex on a... [...] They (prosecution?) manufactured an issue. [...] Those photographs are meaningless. They just show what happens to a hand.
Judge Fidler, a very irritated tone in his voice says something to the effect of, Regardless of what you think Mr. Weinberg, "I cannot agree with you. [...] He told me that none of these experiments on September 3rd would be before the jury! THAT'S A DISCOVERY VIOLATION!"
There it is. Fidler states the defense has perpetrated a discovery violation; something Weinberg has from virtually day one accused the prosecution of doing.
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Love it. Judge Fidler is getting more and more irritated with Whineberg/Slimeberg. Wonder if "Dr" Ayres is following this case. Makes me wonder if he's starting to think about that plea deal. A trial is going to be very expensive.
"Dr." Ayres is probably going to wait unitl May 10th and then fire Wernberg. Then way he can keep on dragging this out forever and forever By making the court reschedule the trail again!!
ReplyDeleteElgene may be right - string out the case; fire the attorney because Dr. Ayres just may have a good argument based on his attorney's comportment in the Phil Spector case. On the other hand, trail errors happen often on both sides, but are innocuous at the appellant level and doesn't reverse a judgement.
ReplyDeleteMore over, Ayres has a right to an affirmative defense and no one should be taking pride in denying him the constitutional provisions of our legal system or take exception to the problems in the Spector trial. Ayres case may not be proven.
Going to trial is Ayres best option at his age; prison is a lousy place to spend a peaceful death in old age and a little local anxiety in the community can be manageable. In prison you are managed by the inmates and the prison guards and staff; you manage very little even if you can be a recluse or in protective custody.
A trail will do more to improve the reporting and investigation system that many have complained about. Not going to trail will likely result in more manipulation and failures to investigate fairly and level the playing field.
After all, everyone should be worried about the family secrets that are passed over daily where family cover up molestations by family members and neighbors...!
Opening the process through trial exposes the violators that are widespread and underreported.
At least four of the top lawyers in the SF Bay area have aleady turned down his case. Jim Collins ( a former cop) was his attorney but quit because he didn't have the stomach to represent a pedophile.
ReplyDeleteAs has been stated here before, Weinberg has already approached the DA's office about a possible plea deal but balked when he found out Ayres could get a life sentence.
Ayres became a frightened little mouse in his civil trial. At the last minute,when he heard four other victims were going to testify, he agreed to pay $$$ to the victim.
If he couldn't stomach that, do you honestly think he's going to want to sit and listen to the testimony of ten times the number of victims in the criminal trial?
Sorry, guys, firing his lawyer is not something that's gonna happen. I imagine there would be some huge financial penalties involved for Ayres. Maybe bail could be revoked...That would be great actually.
Any lawyer who takes this case is gonna ask for a plea deal. My bet is that Ayres pleads guilty