tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post2278732338251204027..comments2024-02-13T14:00:44.681-08:00Comments on william h ayres: child molester, felon, malingerer, alleged psychiatrist.: ayres Trial - CLOSING ARGUMENTSDeep Soundinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15111463003069045187noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-75039918334022526712009-07-13T06:35:03.431-07:002009-07-13T06:35:03.431-07:00Best wishes to the prosecution. I hope victims and...Best wishes to the prosecution. I hope victims and their families will show up.Trapellarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271397690598293203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-56734476782673139532009-07-11T14:09:31.799-07:002009-07-11T14:09:31.799-07:00To those who are concerned about Dr. William Ayres...To those who are concerned about Dr. William Ayres getting a fair trial in San Mateo County. He couldn't possibly have gotten a cooler trial then this one. <br /><br />District Attorney James P. Fox should have recused himself since he personally knows Ayres for 40 years and has served on committee"s with him. Fox has crafted a trial with no victims from San Mateo County Juvenile Hall where Dr. Ayres has worked since 1963 to 2005. 3 CPS reports have surfaced but not because of Fox, he keep them out of his case. The defense attorney brought (CPS) one up.<br /><br />Welcome to San Mateo County<br /><br />Michael G. StognerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-20162315872708576022009-07-11T11:00:40.100-07:002009-07-11T11:00:40.100-07:00Thanks, Susan. Great comments. The closing argumen...Thanks, Susan. Great comments. The closing arguments will go on all day Monday and so the jury probably won't get the case until Tuesday.<br /><br />Thank you for speaking up. The San Mateo Citizens Review Panel in 2007 received the names of several doctors who had strong suspicions that Ayres was molesting boys. The Panel learned that instead of reporting Ayres, they just stopped sending boys to him.<br />The California Medical Board has the names of these doctors but the statute has run out and prosecuting them. <br /><br />Perhaps the four victims who are filing the civil suits can use the information on the doctors who failed to act for their cases.<br /><br />You should try to come to the closing arguments on MondayTrapellarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271397690598293203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-26578394603508848852009-07-11T10:26:06.100-07:002009-07-11T10:26:06.100-07:00It appears those on the Ayres front are having an ...It appears those on the Ayres front are having an extreme meltdown this weekend.<br /><br />Emotions are running high.<br /><br />But I would say the victims and supporters are at least still rational!<br /><br />Anger, blame and guilt, so easy to toss at those who have already suffered.<br /><br />I see through it and I see some very scared inner Ayres circle people panicing. Look you can still visit him in prison!<br /><br />You can also contribute your personal assets to help him out.<br /><br />I doubt this blog will interfere with what you wish to do in that regard.<br /><br />Put your money where your mouth is and get his defense fund built up.<br /><br />Stop writing here, as sympathy is depleted for the Beast.<br /><br />Put your energy towards a charity event to help him out. <br /><br />What about MasterWorks Chorale have they donated?<br /><br />Sam & Thea have equity in their house, how about a loan?<br /><br />Etta, we know you have equity?<br /><br />I wanna see some real cash flowing to help this guy. This is the true measure of a friend....show me the money!<br /><br />Ayres supporters open your wallets and prove how much you support Ayres.....don't just write, give him your hard earned assets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-3584009831350961062009-07-11T10:22:22.535-07:002009-07-11T10:22:22.535-07:00I applaud sites such as this and while it is anit-...I applaud sites such as this and while it is anit-Ayres so what? We're intelligent individuals and come to our own conclusions. That said, I use my experience as part of the Hillsborough medical "elitist" crowd and in looking at the evidence, have come to my own conclusions. I've been out-spoken in my feelings about Ayres guilt, which some may find it interesting that my background and that of my husband is in defense forensic medicine. I have no trouble in defending my husband's expert medical testimony, because there are good physicians in all walks of life. Just because someone is more defense or prosecution orientated does not automatically make them a liar, or discredit their testimony. <br /><br />HOWEVER, in this case, there is NO excuse for Ayres actions. No one with a moral compass or a half-day course in standard medical procedure, could possibly defend Ayres' conduct. He's an opportunist in the worst sense of the word and those that colluded with him to keep his pathology hidden, are just as guilty. Yes, I'm damning many in the medical community, which is painting with a broad stroke, however I'll be damned if I'll allow young people to be victimized by the likes of predators such as Ayres. I'm hoping for an early conviction on Monday morning and some resolution to his many victims.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15374531723048270964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-45546622114597818792009-07-11T10:00:12.530-07:002009-07-11T10:00:12.530-07:00I still wonder if the "Why do you Post" ...I still wonder if the "Why do you Post" poster has the initials "BG" ? Maybe SA?<br /><br />He or she doesn't seem to understand the basic principles of a trial. He asks why we sit in court for hours on end? Did it not occur to him that Americans have the right to sit in court and watch trials?<br /><br />There's something really fishy about someone who tries to act holier than thou and at the same time cast blame. Whoever wrote the Why Do You Post comment is running from reality as fast as he(or she ) can. There's an undertow of emotional pain in that comment that makes me think it was ultimately written by someone in the Ayres family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-80506596320202916432009-07-11T09:50:45.416-07:002009-07-11T09:50:45.416-07:00July 11, at 9:40 am.
Thank you for your post. The...July 11, at 9:40 am.<br /><br />Thank you for your post. The number of victims is now upwards of 40. We know of at least three more who have not and most likely will never come forward to the police.Trapellarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271397690598293203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-9415392263595316912009-07-11T09:40:35.958-07:002009-07-11T09:40:35.958-07:00I for one think this site has a useful purpose. O...I for one think this site has a useful purpose. Obviously, it is prejudiced and makes no bones about it, as the maker of the site is one of Ayres' victims.<br /><br />It was not until reading this and other info. about pedophilia that I realized that an event that happened to me several times when I was about 12 was not only not appropriate but wrong and harmful, and in fact the pain of it came to me 50 years after the fact!<br /><br />Also, I think 40 out of 3000 is a very large number of those who would come forward.<br /><br />I defend the first amendment right of free speech. The jury is no doubt instructed not to be reading this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-58869800230968563132009-07-11T09:33:36.882-07:002009-07-11T09:33:36.882-07:00If anything he took his right to free speech and e...If anything he took his right to free speech and extended it right to the jury in person. It is up to the jury to find him innocent or guilty and it always has been.<br /><br />Why sites like this are important is victims don't get any assistance or psychological help from our government after being a victim or barely from your health insurance anymore. So, in additon to being the victim of a crime, you have to pick up the pieces of PTSD all on your own, and foot the bill if you elect treatment.<br /><br />One way, and especially in this case where the victims may have been convinced that they were the only victim of Ayres abuse, this BLOG has been a way of sharing feelings amongst each other. You can post on here from anywhere in the world.<br /><br />And although those feelings can be seen as anger, some sarcasim, sadness, hope, words from others as supportive, and sometimes a laugh - this is the importance of this site. Might I add it is also very educational.<br /><br />It appears you have never been the victim of a crime. Well I have. Yes, we expect our prosecutor to win every battle and we hope that she does. If we get disappointed it may cause some frustration.<br /><br />Who isn't mature enough to laugh about what we wear? Including ourselves. I am sure Ms. McKowan can handle it. They say laughter is the best medicine. A prosecutor has to be tough, hopefully pointing out that she wore a brown pantsuit isn't to harsh.<br /><br />The context of this site is for many types of people to come together and share how the justice system helped or failed them.<br /><br />Maybe you just haven't been exposed to such failures.<br /><br />Guilt about a win or lose is not the issue. There was evidence, testimony, expert witnesses and such. It was unfortunate that Ayres porn was suppressed. It was also quite clear that Ayres wanted that suppressed as he pulled out a witness for the defense after this would open the door for his kiddie porn to be admitted.<br /><br />I can imagine the disappointment when O.J. Simpson was found not guilty by the Goldman family.<br /><br />But victims have suffered enough guilt and shame in their lives. I will feel disappointment if Ayres is not convicted, but hardly guilt or shame.<br /><br />I will feel very proud either way that the prosecutor, the victims, Victoria Balfour, the supporters and everybody invloved did what they could to get Ayres dragged to the door of hell. <br /><br />His finances are destroyed, four pending civil suits to contend with, no nest egg, poor health, he is ultimatley destroyed and those things started way before the date this blog began.<br /><br />So you want to blame a blog and bloggers and toss in the mix a little guilt and shame. I am not buying what you are serving up.<br /><br />I have meet blame switchers before.<br /><br />I may be more advanced in the processes of being a crime victim that I will not accept blame or guilt from someone like you.<br /><br />I hope Deep Sounding realizes he has no blame, no shame and no guilt in having such a wonderful blog for victims, patients, and sexual abuse survivors etc.<br /><br />Bravo, for giving people a place to learn about what was done to you at the hands of an evil man.<br /><br />Ayres would have been in the exact same situation right here, right now, regardless of this blog.<br /><br />Ayres sold his house before this blog started. Ayres settled a civil suit before this blog started with a victim. Ayres sued his own medical group before this blog started. The four additonal civil suits, now pending, were filed before this blog.<br /><br />Take your guilt and shame somewhere else!Patient Advocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03896767029759772272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-29448332130134110122009-07-11T09:32:51.271-07:002009-07-11T09:32:51.271-07:00Anon 10:42 p.m.
It's unfortunate that you sti...Anon 10:42 p.m.<br /><br />It's unfortunate that you still haven't grasped what blogging is or isn't.<br /><br />You also don't seem to understand that the fate of William Hamilton Ayres will be turned over to the jury next week. They decide.<br /><br />Ayres took the stand in his own defense. He was given the freedon to talk about a woman stating "she thought I was going to remove my penis from my pants", running around buck naked in school smacking towels, he was able to talk to the jury about women passing gas, he talked about homosexual magazines, he was able to say he didn't examine females because they may just expose their large breasts to him.<br /><br />Continued........Patient Advocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03896767029759772272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-27030610560223092942009-07-11T09:16:13.468-07:002009-07-11T09:16:13.468-07:00I still don't agree that this blog would be to...I still don't agree that this blog would be to blame should the prosecutor loses. The person who posted that comment knows better than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-34388372000525165372009-07-11T08:39:04.781-07:002009-07-11T08:39:04.781-07:00Great response Deep Sounding.Great response Deep Sounding.Trapellarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271397690598293203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-82889201318161641142009-07-11T07:56:16.167-07:002009-07-11T07:56:16.167-07:00Why do you post?
I post because, when I was dying...<b>Why do you post?</b><br /><br />I post because, when I was dying inside looking for information about the beast’s arrest and prosecution, I could find nothing substantial, even when major court hearings were held. Sometimes it would be days before I’d hear a blurb. I knew there were others like me out there, too mortified to make contact with people who had information, yet in traumatic pain, needing information about what was going on. <br /><br />I firmly believe that they are still out there. The faster the information is available, from a perspective that is the same as theirs, the better. (I hope, but don’t have any way to know this for sure.)<br /><br /><b>If for some reason he is found not guilty, will you feel some shame?</b><br /><br />Much of what I’m posting here is either commentary about my own struggles, or commentary about what I’ve seen in open court, press, etc (Information that is already out there, and much of that verifiable.) I don’t have any shame or guilt about posting any of that, and for the most part, it’s pretty accurate, even though posted with my biased tone, there will be no reason for me to feel guilty or shamed about those postings regardless of the outcome. <br /><br />I have mentioned before that I am a practicing Christian. Every day I struggle with this site. I sometimes post commentary that is opinion that is mean spirited, especially with regard to those who support ayres, and I should not do that, yet I am so hurt by those people that I persist in those posts even though I should not. <br /><br />I will probably never fully unburden that sin, as I have persisted, even knowing that it will weigh heavily on my soul. I try (even in writing this) to offset some of the burden “see what ayres, the beast, has wrought upon me?” But ultimately, I post these things of my own volition.<br /><br />If the beast prevails, I will feel great grief, and either way will owe the prosecutor, and others involved, a great debt of gratitude.<br /><br /><b>If he goes free, all of you are to blame.</b><br /><br />I suppose that’s a possibility. Everyone knows what he did now, regardless of the jury's decision and that will not change. Will your pain be lessened if he is locked up? I’m anticipating a devastating emotional collapse at the end of this, regardless of outcome. <br /><br />This has been a shitty experience, and I’ve done what I thought I needed to do, making mistakes along the way. <br /><br />Those were great questions, by the way. I’ve been struggling for some time with writing along this line.Deep Soundinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15111463003069045187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-89205959124820391412009-07-11T06:03:09.466-07:002009-07-11T06:03:09.466-07:00To anonymous July 10, 10:42.
You must be a newbie...To anonymous July 10, 10:42.<br /><br />You must be a newbie: we almost never talk about what the prosecutor wears or acts. There's too much comedic relief over in the Ayres' galley to do this.<br /><br />Come on now! How are we to blame if the prosecution fails? Don't you know that the judge has ordered the jury not to read anything about the case - either in newspapers or the blogs?<br /><br />If the prosecution fails, they fail but it's nothing to do with us.<br /><br />We'll throw your question back to you: Why do you post?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-43342721320501236522009-07-10T22:42:52.896-07:002009-07-10T22:42:52.896-07:00Why?
Why do each of you post?
Why do you feel you ...Why?<br />Why do each of you post?<br />Why do you feel you need to do this?<br />If for some reason he is found not guilty, will you feel some shame?<br />Why should you - because you have wrought unneccessary pressure on the system. You couch what you do as "journalism," yet how is it journalism to demean how the prosecutor dresses, looks, and acts? Don't you think that does anything to her psyche? Well, why does she care what we say, you'll say. The question turns back on you - why do you sit for hours in court? Because you feel you have something to say that other people will take to heart. Do you want the prosecution to fail to make your point that Ayers should have been prosecuted years ago? What does that accomplish? If he goes free, all of you are to blame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-31794762460640320342009-07-10T21:05:36.547-07:002009-07-10T21:05:36.547-07:00Bloggers don't tip the scales of justice and c...Bloggers don't tip the scales of justice and contaminate the jury pool.<br /><br />The super highway of information was created for First Amendment Rights.....<br /><br />Jurors receive instructions not to look or review information regarding the case they are on.<br /><br />I can't say for certain jurors follow those instructions.<br /><br />But a juror is more likely to walk past a newspaper stand and see a big headline, than to accidentally hit a button on a computer that comes directly to this site!<br /><br />So to anonymous so worried about due process, I think Ayres is getting the best unbiased trial his wallet can afford.<br /><br />He has Doron Weinberg as his defense attorney. He has jurors who hopefully have followed their duties.<br /><br />Bloggers are part of the new information super highway and that has nothing to do at all about a fair trial.<br /><br />Each morning the jury does not get the pages of this blog submitted to them.<br /><br />So I miss the point about remaining unbiased. When a victim of the Beast says, I was molested by him I believe that victim. In fact many, many victims.<br /><br />The people posting here are already convinced the Beast did what he is accused of, but we are not on the jury.The Patient Advocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780750241399470542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-50931622645593751542009-07-10T20:55:50.775-07:002009-07-10T20:55:50.775-07:00The Ayres case is the most viewed news story ever ...The Ayres case is the most viewed news story ever on the Male Survivor site:<br /><br />http://www.malesurvivor.org/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=213466#Post213466<br /><br />Warning to Solveig and other Ayres accolytes ( all three of them) who have been posting nasty comments here: if you try pulling that same stunt over at Male Survivor you will be run out of town. And banned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-54432563612996710262009-07-10T20:11:01.425-07:002009-07-10T20:11:01.425-07:00My Mom LOVES it when Deep Sounding calls Ayres &qu...My Mom LOVES it when Deep Sounding calls Ayres "The Beast." And she's 84 years old!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-16344508951787280692009-07-10T20:09:28.366-07:002009-07-10T20:09:28.366-07:00I still want to know why Dr. Etta Bryant; Dr. Dick...I still want to know why Dr. Etta Bryant; Dr. Dick Shadoan; Dr. Sam Leavitt and Thea didn't have the guts to show up when the ten victims testified.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-17169802342284850492009-07-10T20:07:58.245-07:002009-07-10T20:07:58.245-07:00I am wondering if a guy named Bob Gibson is postin...I am wondering if a guy named Bob Gibson is posting here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-33588435142649025122009-07-10T19:41:05.450-07:002009-07-10T19:41:05.450-07:00Last, the only way one could know "first hand...<i>Last, the only way one could know "first hand" that Ayre's is a molester is if he molested you, and if that is the case I am sorry for your loss.</i><br /><br />Yeah... guess I got the short end of the straw... too bad for me.<br /><br />Wouldn't want to step on any altruistic, defender of the constitution toes though...Deep Soundinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15111463003069045187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-43012099579150069032009-07-10T18:59:50.485-07:002009-07-10T18:59:50.485-07:001. I never objected to calling Ayres "The Bea...1. I never objected to calling Ayres "The Beast;<br /><br />2. I have never been to a medcal conference and don't know anyone who has--let along spoke about Ayres at such an event.<br /><br />3. I never called the author of this site "hysterical".<br /><br />I never even posted on this site until yesterday, I do not know Ayres, and I do care one way or the other if he convicted, as long as he obtains a fair trial.<br /><br />I do care that we as a society should be allowed to discuss issues of fairness without name calling or assuming that I must be someone who supports Ayres.<br /><br />Last, the only way one could know "first hand" that Ayre's is a molester is if he molested you, and if that is the case I am sorry for your loss.<br /><br />I am just a citizen who cares deeply about the ability of people accused of terrible things to obtain a fair trial.<br /><br />That is all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-41646709745846073752009-07-10T18:59:22.840-07:002009-07-10T18:59:22.840-07:00To the person who objects to Ayres being depicted ...To the person who objects to Ayres being depicted as " The Beast." There is a certain person close to Ayres who has in the past made derogatory comments about victims at medical meetings to other doctors. They have depicted them as money grubbing alcoholics and drug abusers. I know that you know who this person is. <br /><br />There's a wonderful book by a woman psychiatrist who happened to be married to a psychiatrist who was also a pedophile. They shared a medical practice Obviously when he went to jail they split up. She got better and wrote a book and is doing well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-6488327733204930022009-07-10T18:56:20.955-07:002009-07-10T18:56:20.955-07:00but that does not mean we need to be so hysterical...<i>but that does not mean we need to be so hysterical about the issue that the pre-convicted (or ultimately acquitted) find themselves in a prejudicial pretrial atmosphere.</i><br /><br />I happen to know first-hand that ayres is a molester. If there is any "prejudicial pretriall atmosphere" here, it was intiated by ayres many years ago. <br /><br />I "deeply resent" being called hysterical because I'm finally speaking out against this sub-human piece of trash.Deep Soundinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15111463003069045187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5166908879185923782.post-7709293642869088782009-07-10T18:54:39.337-07:002009-07-10T18:54:39.337-07:00To the person who objects to Ayres being depicted ...To the person who objects to Ayres being depicted as " The Beast." There is a certain person close to Ayres who has in the past made derogatory comments about victims at medical meetings to other doctors. They have depicted them as money grubbing alcoholics and drug abusers. I know that you know who this person is. <br /><br />There's a wonderful book by a woman psychiatrist who happened to be married to a psychiatrist who was also a pedophile. They shared a medical practice Obviously when he went to jail they split up. She got better and wrote a book and is doing well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com